What Does Real Learning Look Like?

A Conversation with Natalie Burns on Agency, Critical Thinking, and Learning at Home

10/3/2025

When it comes to guiding your child’s education, one of the most common questions homeschool parents ask is: How do I know they’re learning what they’re supposed to be learning?

In this episode of SmartPath Conversations, Natalie Burns, homeschool consultant, parent coach, and founder of Simplified Homeschool Teaching, joins SmartPath co-founders Robert and Jonathan for a practical and refreshing conversation on what learning actually looks like at home.

Natalie has worked with thousands of families who are leaving traditional education behind. But she’s not just giving advice, she lives it. She’s raised and educated her own children outside the system and brings both personal experience and professional insight to the table.

Highlights from the episode:

1. “Curriculum isn’t the starting point, your child is.”

One of the biggest shifts Natalie sees parents go through is realizing that picking a curriculum shouldn’t come first. Before jumping into boxed sets or rigid lesson plans, she encourages families to step back and observe: How does your child learn? What lights them up? The answers to those questions should guide the resources, not the other way around.

2. Co-creating a learning rhythm that works

Natalie emphasizes rhythm over rigidity. A good homeschool day isn’t one that perfectly mimics a school schedule; it honors your child’s natural flow of energy, curiosity, and engagement. The goal is connection, not control.

3. Reframing the fear of “falling behind”

If you’ve ever panicked that your kid isn’t learning what they “should,” you’re not alone. But Natalie challenges this framing altogether. She invites parents to look for deeper signs of growth: Are they asking good questions? Are they applying what they learn? Are they thinking for themselves? These are the real markers of progress, not test scores.

4. The missing piece: Critical thinking

Natalie speaks powerfully about the need for learners to not just absorb facts, but to engage critically. She explains that when kids are given space to reflect, question, and form their own understanding, they begin to own their learning in ways that go far beyond a textbook.

5. What real progress looks like in homeschooling

Natalie urges parents to let go of the school-based definitions of success and tune into more meaningful indicators: independence, creativity, collaboration, and the ability to make connections across subjects. These are the traits that stick.

6. Advice for parents who feel overwhelmed

Finally, Natalie offers grounded encouragement for parents trying to do it all. You don’t need to be a perfect teacher; you need to be an engaged partner. When you lead with relationship and curiosity, the learning follows.

Our favorite moment?

“The best learning comes when we stop trying to replicate school and start building a life that actually works for our families.”

This episode is a must-listen for any parent navigating the early stages of homeschooling, or just rethinking what learning can look like for their family.

🎧 Watch the full episode here or listen here on Spotify.

Want more conversations like this? Join our newsletter for podcast drops, parent guides, and tools designed for homeschool families.